How long would it take a Victorian to travel from central Germany to the UK?

How long would it take a Victorian to travel from central Germany to the UK?

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Specifically from Lauscha in 1862, does anyone know how extensive railways were then?

(The maps are from an Atlas Obscura article on Isochronic maps and the wikipedia entry on German Railways.)

Here's an isochronic map centered on London from the early 1880s to give a feel of how long it would take ~20 years later:

The German rail network in 1861 suggests there already was a track nearby (you can see a track between Eisenach and Bamberg if you zoom in) so the travel time would likely have been within 10 days in 1862 as well:

For completeness, the travel times in 1914 to illustrate how fast things evolved back then:

Goths descend on Leipzig

Some 20,000 people are expected at this weekend's Gothic festival in Leipzig. Most will be dressed from head to toe in black - but it's the music, not the conspicuous dress, that defines the Goth scene.

Goth fashion has many influences: punk, medieval and Victorian

At the Wave Gotik Treffen (WTG) in Leipzig, now in its 19th year, those with powdered white faces, black lace dresses and heavy black boots won't stand out in the crowd - for once. For four days, the eastern German city may look a bit like it did in medieval times, just with a bit less color.

Indeed, most "trendies" (non-Goths) identify members of this subculture by their appearance, which is dominated by heavy makeup and anything black. Often, styles are borrowed from the medieval and Victorian periods.

But there is more than meets the eye. Even though fashion is "critical because it visibly defines Goths to other people," music plays an even bigger role in the identity, sociologist Paul Hodkinson told Deutsche Welle.

Hodkinson, an expert on Goth subculture at the University of Surrey in England, says his research has shown that even though "people differed quite significantly in terms of what it means to be Goth, their passion for music was consistent."

Fashion is just one part of the Goth subculture

Thomas Thyssen, editor-in-chief at Germany's Gothic Magazine, agrees. He said that the musical tastes of 16 to 21-year-old Goths tends to be similar in Germany and the UK.

The mainstream Goth scene is dominated by electronic and industrial music, according to Thyssen. "One of the very few exceptions is in London where new bands with influences from post-punk and Goth bands like Sisters of Mercy can be found," he said.

British neofolk group Sol Invictus and German death-rock band Bloody Dead And Sexy are two of the over 200 bands set to perform in Leipzig.

High-profile violence cases

There have been reports linking the neofolk and industrial music scenes to the extreme right, which has cast a shadow on the Goth movement. But Thyssen, who has been a DJ for almost two decades, says this claim "has been blown out of proportion."

"The last incident I witnessed was four years ago at the WGT when one of them tried to beat up someone, but the anti-fascists beat him up," he said. "Fascists are not welcome in the Goth scene."

According to Thyssen, there have been very few incidences of violence in his 18 years as a DJ in Leipzig, Bochum, Berlin and other cities around the world.

The link to violence is a result of the media portrayal of particular high-profile cases which have involved Goths - or those thought to have been involved in the scene - like the Columbine shooting in the US in April 1999.

Goth picked up from punk

According to Hodkinson, the Goth subculture began in the early 1980s with the decline of the punk movement, which is often associated with the band Sex Pistols, British fashion designer Vivienne Westwood and mainly left-wing political overtones. Today's Goth subculture, on the other hand, is linked to the color black, post-punk rock and Gothic literature.

Unheilig's album "Grosse Freiheit" topped German charts

The beginning of the movement was largely characterized by a "do-it-yourself" mentality, but now Goths can buy prepackaged clothes and accessories online and in specialty stores, said Gothic Magazine writer Michael Schwesinger.

Hodkinson, however, isn't worried that the scene is becoming overly commercialized. Criticism of consumerism among the Goths has been around since the 1980s and '90s, he said. The scene "is really centered on a very distinct form of consumerism because it's about acquiring types of clothes, accessories, and music."

Still, Schwesinger believes that the scene has become "more superficial" in recent years and, with a focus on partying and consumption, is not much different from popular culture.

At least German Dark Rock act Unheilig ("unholy" in English) has made the jump from subculture to popular mainstream. Its latest album "Grosse Freiheit" ("Great Freedom") was number one in the German charts.

Author: Chiponda Chimbelu
Editor: Kate Bowen

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Owen hat-trick as England cruise to historic 5-1 win over Germany

In one of the greatest nights in English football history, Sven-Goran Eriksson's young team fired five superb goals past Germany, beating their famous arch rivals away from home for the first time since 1965.

Michael Owen, the 21-year-old Liverpool striker, earned himself a place in footballing folklore by scoring a stunning hat-trick to put England in pole position to go through to the World Cup finals in Japan and Korea next year. His fellow Liverpool players Steven Gerrard and Emile Heskey got the other goals to crown a famous evening in Munich.

England, who had appeared doomed to miss out on the finals a year ago before Eriksson was appointed following defeat by Germany at Wembley, will go top of the group and be well placed to qualify automatically if they beat Albania on Wednesday night.

Watched by millions of television viewers and 9,000 travelling fans at the stadium, England outclassed the Germans with slick passing and clinical finishing that sparked jubilant celebrations in homes, pubs and clubs around the country.

It was an incredible end to a night that started so badly for England when Germany scored just six minutes into the game following a mix-up between central defenders Sol Campbell and Rio Ferdinand. Slack defending enabled Carsten Jancker to prod the ball home from 10 yards.

But England struck back in the 12th minute. Gary Neville lofted the ball forward and a nod down from Nick Barmby found its way to Owen.

The Liverpool striker did superbly well to get his boot over the bouncing ball and drive a low effort past Oliver Kahn for his eleventh goal in 31 games for his country and his eighth in the current campaign.

Then, in a stunning development on the stroke of half-time, Gerrard picked up the ball 30 yards out and hammered a first-time shot past the German goalkeeper.

Earlier, trouble off the pitch threatened to overshadow the World Cup qualifier as hundreds of drunken English football fans became involved in running battles with baton-wielding German riot police. The atmosphere in the city centre was extremely tense and at least 46 fans were arrested after fighting broke out three hours before the match started.

Bottles thrown by England supporters rained down on police, who chased gangs of fans round the city's main square. Dozens of supporters were led away with blood pouring from wounds.

In one of the worst cases of violence, English fans dragged a man from his car and beat him to the ground. He was only saved when police intervened and rushed him to hospital. His condition was not known last night.

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Riot police were deployed to keep apart large numbers of opposing supporters involved in scuffles in the Marienplatz, Munich's main square. They moved in after groups of German fans taunting the visitors led to a fight breaking out. In one brief melee, English fans threw bottles and glasses of beer at German supporters who had torn down a St George's Cross flag.

The ugly scenes in Munich contrasted sharply with the wild celebrations going on late into the night in Dublin after the Republic of Ireland beat Holland 1-0 in their vital qualifying tie. The result means they are certain to win a play-off place and could pip Portugal to top the group and qualify automatically.

Blackburn midfielder Jason McAteer slotted home a cross from Steve Finnan in the 67th minute. The goal came just nine minutes after defender Gary Kelly was sent off, leaving Ireland to hold out for victory with only 10 men. It was Ireland's fourteenth game in a row unbeaten at home. The result all but knocks Holland out.

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Help with travel plan to France?

It is said that the Dordogne has a castle for each day of the year. It also has important caves.

Burgundy has its share of castles, vineyards, and small villages.

Wow what a great question and of course it really depends on what you mean historically significant

1 Fighting the English royal family
2 Killing other religions
3 Fighting the Germans
4 Crowning French Royal Family
5 Palaces
6 Killing local Frenchmen

I too like the Dordogne (see 1) but I might start in Reims (4) and then move onto Alsace (3) picking up the odd glass works, and design masterpiece along the way culminating in the Chablis region and a few monestries and then Auxerre.

Further south than Dordogne you could visit Carcassone and all the castles down there (2)

Wow! Very good tips! I love castles so that was spot on! I will make a note of these and start drafting

My wife & I retired early in 1999 so we could travel more. Since then, we have spent 2 months in Europe every year. About 80% of that time has been spent in France. Our two favorite regions are the Dordogne and Provence. If you enjoy spending a lot of time in the car, you could visit them both in 9 full days. If you need to allocate the first & last day to getting to & from France, I would only visit one location.

Attached is my 35 page Provence & Cote d'Azur itinerary, and my shorter Dordogne itinerary.

Nine days. Sigh. So much to see, so little time.

First of all, Stu's itineraries (and Stu!) are gems. So do review all those.

But I'm sure as others have or will say, you could easily spend your nine days centered in Paris with some daytrips to Normandy or Chartres or Versailles or Giverny and more. Tons of history.

So it boils down to which France of your own imagination do you really WANT to see the most? I made up a "Hollywood Paris" route for a friend, an extreme Audrey Hepburn fan, because that was indeed the Paris she wanted to explore--and she was perfectly happy just doing that for days. I had another friend who only wanted to see the Eiffel Tower in Paris but desired to see Loire Valley castles. Since her husband wanted to explore Loire Valley wines, they were happy with that Loire Valley focus. For some, it's seeing that lavender fields and the light that inspired so many artists in Provence.

So think about it--what is it that draws you to France?

If you visit the Dordogne you could fly into Toulouse also - our second favorite city in France. Toulouse is a little closer than Bordeaux, and the drive there is more scenic (IMO) than the drive from Bordeaux. The Toulouse airport is on the Dordogne side of the city, while the Bordeaux airport is on the "other" side of Bordeaux from the Dordogne. We got into several traffic jams driving around Bordeaux on the way to the Dordogne.

So think about it--what is it that draws you to France?

So I visited Paris rather fast few years back and it was great. Since then I've seen such a great pictures about French castles (which I love) and country side that decided to go there next when I can. Don't have anything nailed down yet but got some good ideas from here. Maybe I need to get more time off though

"" So think about it--what is it that draws you to France?""

Diversity - both cultural & terrain. Provence is completely different from Brittany, and both are different from the Pays Basque, and all are different from the Dordogne, and all are different from Alsace, and all are different from the Alps, and all are different from the Auvergne, and all are different from the Nord, and then there is Burgundy, Bordeaux, Loire, Franche Comte, Pyrenees, & the Cote d'Azur. When I visit these regions, I get totally different experiences.

And then there is the food.

I can't say this about Italy, Germany. UK, Spain, etc.

More people visit France than any other country in the world (I've read this many places - including National Geographic). Second most is Spain.

[QUOTE=StuDudley17241207]"" So think about it--what is it that draws you to France?""

"Diversity - both cultural & terrain. Provence is completely different from Brittany, and both are different from the Pays Basque, and all are different from the Dordogne, and all are different from Alsace, and all are different from the Alps, and all are different from the Auvergne, and all are different from the Nord, and then there is Burgundy, Bordeaux, Loire, Franche Comte, Pyrenees, & the Cote d'Azur. When I visit these regions, I get totally different experiences.

And then there is the food.

I can't say this about Italy, Germany. UK, Spain, etc." *
*(please note that I added the Bold and underline - progol)

While I love France and have enjoyed our travels there, so have I also loved our trips to Italy, the UK, and Spain. We have never been to Germany.

As for "DIVERSITY", a very subjective term here as StuDudley just references his own experiences, I would not argue with his description of France -- but our last trip, pre-Covid, was a 5-week long trip in Italy from north to south andthe contrasts could not be greater, and the experiences more different! We LOVED it all, and relished the "diversity" of the Veneto region (with its fabulous architecture and cultural history), to Bologna (and the food - WOW!), to Umbria (such a different experience from the other places, and what a gorgeous region!), to Naples (now that is a different experience!) and again, to the Amalfi Coast (beautiful. friendly, and amazing food). And other trips took us into the Cinque Terre and to the Aosta Valley and to Milan. And each region's food is very distinct, though I'd pose the idea that the food in Italy might be, in general, simpler preparations with an emphasis on local ingredients. Of course this is a broad generalization, but I much prefer the food in Italy to that of France.

And Spain - now we have only been fortunate to visit twice -- the pandemic put a damper on our third trip -- but for diversity, Spain is pretty up there in its contrasts. On one trip, we spent 3 fantastic weeks in Spain, much of it in Andalusia, which could not be more different than Catalonia or the Basque region, which we were to have visited. And the food! Wow, if you want diversity in food, go to Spain - and creativity! My mouth still waters thinking about the amazing tapas we had in Seville!

So, I'm not badmouthing France - I love it, too - but to say that these other countries are not as "diverse" as France is one of the oddest statements I've seen to date. We haven't been as fortunate to travel as much as StuDudley has, but I'd be very hesitant to make such broad generalizations comparing France to other countries. And while I'm not going to say it's not, I'd say that these other countries might even be more "diverse" -- my experiences, anyway - than France!

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